This was gorgeous and painful and wonderful.

Thank you. :) That's pretty much what I was going for.

Oh Joanie, poor fucked up Joanie. What an insightful look at a complex and apparently weak character. I love the way you show her trying to protect women from danger and failing miserably for the most part. It's such a spellbinding vid.

Thank you. :) Your icon is clapping in time to the remix I'm listening to. It's hyponotizing.

You nailed a lot of what I was getting at with this vid. Joanie's whole life has been controlled by men in some way, shape, or form. Her father, Cy, society, and so on. The same can be said for every other woman on Deadwood, like Alma, Trixie, Martha, even Jane to a certain extent. The other lead females have more outward, obvious, and seeable attributes, while Joanie is portrayed as the weakest female, with more internal characteristics. Alma, Trixie, Martha, and Jane have tangible traits, such as power, strength, intelligence, ingenuities, skills, while Joanie has inner hope to a degree. She trusts and wants so badly to do so that she often makes appears rather naive and ends up extremely disappointed and desperate. She lives most of her life in a quiet level of fear. Most vids focus on Alma or Trixie because they are easier to identify with (and those vids have been amazing). Most people see Joanie as weak and stupid for her mistakes. This is of course, my own personal reading.

In my vid I want to show Joanie as a product of the time, trapped by the constraints of men and the limitations placed on her by them and herself. She continually makes the same mistakes because she doesn't see other options. In the end, it's her relationship with Jane that allows her to feel safe and comfortable. Jane is her equal with only the boundaries they place on each other.

Hey, thanks for posting that. I don't know the source, so I didn't feel qualified to go into great detail, but I'm looking forward to rewatching with more backstory in place.

Thanks. In order to understand the vid more deeply, there's a certain amount of knowledge that would help. Hopefully it works on a more visual level as well.

Ahh, thanks for expanding on that. I definitely got that feeling. She certainly seems more oppressed than the other Deadwood women (and women generally in Deadwood have a tough time.) I have quite an ambiguous attitude to Joanie I love her dearly for her maternal big heart and at the same time want to slap her for her failure to learn. I'm glad you gave her a sort of happy ending with Jane maybe she's finally made progress!

I'm very happy some of what I was doing got across. I completed this vid a while ago and it's weird to put it out now and be getting feedback.

I was worried for Joanie and Jane towards the end of the series because they were nearly happy and I'm used to shows that don't let characters to happy for long.

That is just wonderful and perfect and now I want to go watch Deadwood again for like 12 days straight.

Thank you. I've marathoned season two in 4 days once. I was proud of myself.

I know Deadwood from vids a little but I don't think I've seen these two characters before. Fabulous mirroring of the women aspirationally climbing the stairs at the beginning (beautifully cut) and Joanie? coming *down* the steps at the end.

Joanie usually doesn't make it into Deadwood vids. The images of Joanie going up and down the stairs was the first section I had in my head for the vid. Thank you.

I haven't seen Deadwood, but I really enjoyed this visually, and it totally worked with the music.

Deadwood is such a well made and inteligent show. Thank you. I hoped it worked without knowledge of the show. :)

I missed a chunk of Non-Attending Premieres, but made it in time to see this, which made me so glad! I love that you've done such a thoughtful study of Joanie and the forces in her life that have shaped her without her consent...I enjoyed reading your vid rambles in the comments :) Despite so many horrible things in her life, she is still so incredibly loving and nurturing...a truly "good soul." She deserves that peace and comfort with Jane.

Joanie is a character close to my heart. Thank you.

I was so surprised in Non-Attending Premieres to learn this was you. It's so different from what I'd normally expect, but that's definitely not a bad thing. It's cool to see that you have this kind of range as a vidder. This is a poignant yet dark character study (leave it to you to pull off that combination) that allowed me to connect with the narrative despite not knowing the source.

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:) I wanted to stretch myself into something deeper and meaningful. Joanie is a character dear to me and I wanted to create a vid that said something important.

Thank you.

I was re-watching this the other day and noticed what you did with the stairs for the first time. That was just beautiful. And I love the shifts in music and color for the section with Jane.

Aww, thanks. :) I quite liked this one.